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#16 Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2011 04:59 pm |
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Geez, you lot are being so hard on this guy ! I've been there myself and I can imagine how he feels. We all handle it differently. I hope he sues the pants off these clowns so they can see what they're doing to him. He is in a job he LOVES. He doesn't want to quit, he just wants to make it bearable for him to continue. If it takes legal action to see the effect they're having on him, well so be it.
Maybe this is TOO MUCH INFORMATION but being bullied at work (And that is exactly what it is, despite all your collective tut-tutting) made me consider taking my own life a few years ago.
It's what made me leave Southwest Airlines in 2006. The constant taunts and childish behaviour of a few individuals (Who were NOT censured by management) gave me no option but to leave a job I absolutely adored. Lies and intimidation can grind you down. I was physically assaulted too but management did nothing. In a bizarre twist, I was told by management in a "Please Explain" session "Well, you're an Aussie, I thought you people were tough. Can't you just ignore it?" I had times, names, locations everything, but still no action was taken. The perpetrators had seniority to me (and the backing of a strong union)
There. Sorry if I got too heated. But I've been there. :( And it's got to be better than taking a gun to solve the problems don't you think?
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#17 Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2011 06:06 pm |
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I think your case is just a wee bit different than being greeted with "g'day sport"
I too ended up leaving a job because of continual bullying...but I fail to see how this is bullying.
But I also wasn't there so wouldn't know the tone of voice used etc 
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#18 Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2011 08:22 pm |
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Anyway, this topic got me thinking about ockerisms, and I've got to say, I really love some of our colourful language.
And I found this article:
By jingo, Australia's got a bloody great lingo
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/by-jingo-what-a-bloody-great-lingo/story-e6frf7l6-1225993321873
G'DAY mate, is it too ocker to call a girl a sheila?
A test of Aussie lingo that we love and hate reveals "mate", "arvo", "no worries" and "she'll be right" come up trumps.
But cobber, strewth and sheila are outdated cringe.
So I was wondering what are your favourite ockerisms & which ones do you use a lot.
I know I say mate all the time, & fair dinkum, & hows it going (I read someone saying that people in America haven't heard that expression & get confused, & ask "hows what going ? Where?" Is that true?)
I'm also quite fond of the word bugger...it has so many uses. Oh bugger! or I'm buggered, or Geez, that hurts like buggery...
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#19 Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2011 09:19 pm |
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| The thing is we are all different and we all handle things different than others. Take my personality you can almost say anything to me and i would laugh in your face end of story, i dont intimidate easily. Yet if you hit or even try to hit me i will stand up its one thing i will not take from man or woman. I just feel this guy isnt handling things real well as i agree saying G'day sport or is your girlfriends name Shelia is not abuse. It might get under his skin but its not abuse. He might choose to take offence but for me its not a personal insult as in saying hey your a fat slob and so on that an insult. But as i said we are all different and we handle or react different and thats fair enough.
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Arizona_Girl Lieutenant

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#20 Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2011 09:21 pm |
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sixtiesrule wrote:
I think your case is just a wee bit different than being greeted with "g'day sport"
Maybe so. But for this fellow, I'd almost guarantee his story was not reported in full. Knowing the Daily Mail's reporting pedigree (cough cough) they were intent on only showing what a weak kneed fairy this guy is. The DM readership LOVES to read stories that bring us Aussies down a peg or two. This story was right up their alley. They think we're boastful and over proud. I am speaking from experience; I'm half Pommy myself and have a cultural foot in both countries. Some Brits get a perverse pleasure out of slanging off Aussies. They think we're the unworthy cousins living the good life. While the Americans often find us interesting and charming, *some* Brits will latch onto and dig and dig. When they see you getting riled, they go into overdrive. My uncles are a fine case in point. North of England ooy aye ecky thump a*holes who continually slammed me for having the audacity to BE and(gasp horror) SPEAK like an Australian. They think it's funny; that's the thing. They actually think they're freakin' hilarious. They'd say the same thing over and over and over again. "Oh we're just teasing, don't take it so seriously".
I too ended up leaving a job because of continual bullying...but I fail to see how this is bullying.
But I also wasn't there so wouldn't know the tone of voice used etc 
The it seems we have entirely different views on what constitutes bullying. You don't have to be physically pushed or have your head shoved down a toilet.
In effect, you're all telling him to "man up" and that he's a cry baby. Ironic that it's a crappy Pom newapaper doing all the one-sided reporting. Don't you find it odd to be supporting a slanted UK article against an Aussie ?
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#21 Posted: Sun Jan 30th, 2011 11:30 pm |
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Fair enough A-G. I'm sorry that this thread caused you to relive such painful memories. I don't doubt for one moment the hurt you obviously suffered.
I was just posting what i thought was a pretty funny read in my usual mucking around way.
It really was just intended as a light-hearted contribution to the forum.

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#22 Posted: Mon Jan 31st, 2011 12:10 am |
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No that's fine. I'm more sensitive than usual as my husband was taken to hospital yesterday with acute renal failure and everything is blurred for me at the moment. Not getting much sleep, not eating properly. I'm off again to see him now. Makes me cry to see him there.

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#23 Posted: Mon Jan 31st, 2011 01:31 am |
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sorry.
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#24 Posted: Mon Jan 31st, 2011 06:41 am |
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I sincerely hope hubby is ok..it sounds very worrying. I've been there & done that...when hubby had his heart attack, I literally tripped over in the street, hurrying to an ATM to get some money out, & my mind was just so preoccupied, I wasn't watching where I was going & fell flat on my face!
Really hope things start to look better for you, mate.

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#25 Posted: Mon Jan 31st, 2011 01:45 pm |
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| It goes without saying everybody thinks differently and what upsets one doesn't upset another. I don't believe everything that is written in the papers and there is always two side to every story. I based my reply on what was reported and i know as well as everybody else there is more than likely more to the story as there always is and a good example is this man is suffering from depression that point needs to be addressed as a person who suffers from depression 90% of the time makes things worse than it is. Im in no way saying its alright to keep going at someone with depression but it does need a bit of thought behind it if your going to be suing. Then there is another side what has been his response? Sadly in cases like this you can only respond via your own thoughts and what knowledge you have about something. In my case im still shaking my head about this one and there needs more than what has been reported for me to say hey mate go sue the butt off them. As its been said and its true we don't know the whole story and more than likely never will.
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#26 Posted: Mon Jan 31st, 2011 01:47 pm |
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Arizona_Girl wrote:
No that's fine. I'm more sensitive than usual as my husband was taken to hospital yesterday with acute renal failure and everything is blurred for me at the moment. Not getting much sleep, not eating properly. I'm off again to see him now. Makes me cry to see him there.

Arizona_Girl i wishing your husband a speedy recovery and try to get some sleep and eat something!
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#27 Posted: Mon Jan 31st, 2011 02:42 pm |
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Arizona_Girl wrote:
No that's fine. I'm more sensitive than usual as my husband was taken to hospital yesterday with acute renal failure and everything is blurred for me at the moment. Not getting much sleep, not eating properly. I'm off again to see him now. Makes me cry to see him there.

Its a natural thing Arizona_Girl to feel the way you are but please try to eat and sleep you must keep your strength up. I also wish your hubby a speedy recovery 
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#28 Posted: Mon Jan 31st, 2011 04:06 pm |
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Arizona_Girl wrote:
I'm more sensitive than usual as my husband was taken to hospital yesterday with acute renal failure and everything is blurred for me at the moment. Not getting much sleep, not eating properly. I'm off again to see him now. Makes me cry to see him there.
Thoughts and prayer are being sent your way
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#29 Posted: Fri Feb 4th, 2011 09:26 pm |
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sixtiesrule wrote:
Anyway, this topic got me thinking about ockerisms, and I've got to say, I really love some of our colourful language.
And I found this article:
By jingo, Australia's got a bloody great lingo
So I was wondering what are your favourite ockerisms & which ones do you use a lot.
I know I say mate all the time, & fair dinkum, & hows it going (I read someone saying that people in America haven't heard that expression & get confused, & ask "hows what going ? Where?" Is that true?)
I'm also quite fond of the word bugger...it has so many uses. Oh bugger! or I'm buggered, or Geez, that hurts like buggery...
I never heard the term "bogan" used as a derogatory word in Australia. I never used it (except in relation to the edible bogan moth) and never heard anyone else use it when I lived there (I left in early 2000). I see it regularly on Aussie websites now.
But I also had never heard "24/7" or "chill out" either until I came here. Another one that I never understood until hubby explained it to me is "I've got your back".. that always sounded ridiculous. I'm guessing they use all that in OZ as well ?
I'm sure there are plenty more. I have never EVER heard anyone call someone "cobber" except as a joke in in an old "Dad and Dave" movie :) I think it went to pasture after the Second World War. Same goes for Crikey. But yeah, 'bugger me " is one I use a lot :) I called someone a "bludger" the other day. Chris had no idea what I meant :)
Like all versions of English, Australian is fairly dynamic. My friend in Sydney often says words to me when I call her and I have no idea what she means. She mentioned someone called a "Rangi" (I think ) and it means "redhead". Never heard of that before. Then again she is heavily into sports and plays with loads of Pacific Islanders and their language is... err colourful and peppered with Americanisms. I told her that if she EVER says "It's all good !" to me one more time I will never speak to her again :) It's like that bloody awful expression "My bad" Drives me nuts. 
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