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#1  Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 09:47 pm

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thank goodness I'll never be needing the care of this hospital...I am glad of the few staff who couldn't let it continue...and risked their jobs/lives even...

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25006113-5006301,00.html

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#2  Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 10:13 pm

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God dam what is going on in the world.
What a horrible story to read but not the first and im sure not the last.



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#3  Posted: Wed Feb 4th, 2009 02:04 am

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Yes, Bundaberg has had more than it's fair share of shocker doctors...anyone remember Dr. Jayant Patal who ran off to the US and has been dragged back to Qld...he too was at Bundaberg...here is a bit about him...(my hubby is a Bundaberg boy too)

The Queensland Government commissioned two other inquiries in addition to the Morris and Davies Inquiries. These inquiries possessed few judicial powers or ability to summon witnesses.

The Forster Inquiry, headed by Peter Forster, concentrated on the administrative structure of the Queensland Health bureaucracy, and how administrative procedures could be improved to ensure that similar events to those at Bundaberg Base Hospital would not occur again.

The other inquiry was an internal audit of Dr Patel's clinical and surgical practices by Queensland Health. On 30 June 2005, The Courier-Mail published details of this audit before it was due for public release. The newspaper reported that there were seven patient deaths that were likely to have been caused by Patel and seven more that warrant further investigation. There has been some criticism that this audit relied too heavily on patient notes written by Patel himself, or by other Bundaberg Base Hospital staff who could have been interested in covering up Dr Patel's poor standards or minimising the hospital's liability for patient trauma and death.

The State of Oregon Medical Board is also investigating Patel a second time, this time for stating that he had retired, whilst working full time as chief of surgery at Bundaberg Base Hospital, as well as lying to Kaiser Permanente about his previous disciplinary actions in New York state. Patel appeared before the state board September 2005, but declined to answer questions due to possible criminal charges in Australia. On 6 October 2005, the Board voted unanimously to issue a formal complaint against Patel. Disciplinary action against the doctor can include a fine of up to US$ 5,000 and revocation of his medical license.



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#4  Posted: Wed Feb 4th, 2009 02:16 am

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vickster wrote: Yes, Bundaberg has had more than it's fair share of shocker doctors...anyone remember Dr. Jayant Patal who ran off to the US and has been dragged back to Qld...he too was at Bundaberg...here is a bit about him...(my hubby is a Bundaberg boy too)

The Queensland Government commissioned two other inquiries in addition to the Morris and Davies Inquiries. These inquiries possessed few judicial powers or ability to summon witnesses.

The Forster Inquiry, headed by Peter Forster, concentrated on the administrative structure of the Queensland Health bureaucracy, and how administrative procedures could be improved to ensure that similar events to those at Bundaberg Base Hospital would not occur again.

The other inquiry was an internal audit of Dr Patel's clinical and surgical practices by Queensland Health. On 30 June 2005, The Courier-Mail published details of this audit before it was due for public release. The newspaper reported that there were seven patient deaths that were likely to have been caused by Patel and seven more that warrant further investigation. There has been some criticism that this audit relied too heavily on patient notes written by Patel himself, or by other Bundaberg Base Hospital staff who could have been interested in covering up Dr Patel's poor standards or minimising the hospital's liability for patient trauma and death.

The State of Oregon Medical Board is also investigating Patel a second time, this time for stating that he had retired, whilst working full time as chief of surgery at Bundaberg Base Hospital, as well as lying to Kaiser Permanente about his previous disciplinary actions in New York state. Patel appeared before the state board September 2005, but declined to answer questions due to possible criminal charges in Australia. On 6 October 2005, the Board voted unanimously to issue a formal complaint against Patel. Disciplinary action against the doctor can include a fine of up to US$ 5,000 and revocation of his medical license.
so that's all he gets if found guilty of their deaths?  or would that then become a separate issue to be tried for murder or manslaughter or whatever they put it under..

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#5  Posted: Thu Feb 5th, 2009 10:28 pm

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Good grief Den that article is awful.

I DO NOT KNOW what the heck is going on with health care. I would have thought we were better than that.

I also remember Dr Patal and the mess he caused. I hope they do more than that article states. He needs to be hung drawn and quarted like the other doc in the article t0099



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My son is a paediatric nurse, & was telling me the other day of some horror stories, involving doctors not picking up warning signs in some of their babies.One case was when a mother took her 4 week old to the paediatrician, & said his head is not growing in proportion to the rest of his body.

The doctor gave the stock answer of "you're being a neurotic mother & imagining things.He's fine"

Another 6 weeks later she took him back to the hospital, demanding tests, saying "I have 3 other children...I KNOW how they should develop, and he doesn't look normal to me"

They did some scans & found that only half of his brain has developed...he is going to be severely handicapped.

 

Another story was of a baby, upon discharge at 1 week old showed some signs of jaundice. She was , however, discharged. Mother brought her back in 3 weeks later & she was bright yellow...in the final stages of liver failure and is now on the transplant list!!

 

There were several others he told me about, they have all happened in just a few months, & he reckons the news is going to hit the headlines vey soon.

 

EDIT: sorry, meant to say this wasn't at Bundaberg hospital, it is at Port Macquarie (NSW)

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sixtiesrule wrote: The doctor gave the stock answer of "you're being a neurotic mother & imagining things."
 

Dont you just hate that good old answer some Doctors give.
I went through the same the same reply when my daughter at 3 months started having Convulsions, i was sent on my way after being told its nothing your just a first time Mum and she is just twitching its normal so i was told.
I brought up why does she have such a small head, i mean come on you dont need to have 6 kids to know 90% of kids heads look bigger compared to the rest of there body's, but was told nothing was wrong with her,
After another 3 months of going through what i will call not normal with her i was at my sisters place in Werribee (Victoria) when she had another "attack" so we took her to the hospital there and 2 weeks later she was released with a high dosage of medicine she had to take every day( sorry cant spell the name couldnt even try to) for the next 5 years of her life.
The Doctor at Werribee made a call to my Doctor back in Moe (Victoria) and funny how things changed after i got her back home, my daughter and i was treated like a queen after that call.
So yes Mothers do know even if it their first that something isnt right and Doctors do need to do there job better after all thats there job is helping save our lives isnt it.
Mellissa was having Febrile Convulsions at least once a week and at times twice in one day, i think she was around 3 when they stopped but she was still kept on the medicane till she was 5.
Lucky she didnt have any brain problems at all.



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I was involved in a car accident when I was 26 weeks pregnant, my son was born at 26 weeks due to the injuries I had.  The Doctors told us when he was 2 days old to just let him die because he had little chance to make it a month, that was their exact words, no sugar coating at all.   How can a Mother just say ok let my child die because that's what the Doctors say to do.  My son lived until he was 6 years old and he had the best quality of life that he could possibly have.  From him I learnt so much about appreciating life for what it is.  If I had of listened to those Doctors I would have never experienced the love I did from him.  Every living creature deserves the right to fight for life, my son was a happy little guy and he never suffered, he just lived and he loved and he was loved.  I do not and will never trust Doctors and their personal opinions.  If I don't feel as though the treatment myself or somebody in my family is getting then I ask questions and I don't stop until I am satisfied or I move onto another Doctor. 

Even though these people are well educated and have done many hours treating people, they are NOT God.



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that is right Jo....I have seen many doctors, and I have dismissed many doctors.  As soon as a doctor tells me I'm imagining it, that can't happen, you don't know what you're talking about, I doubt it, and many other phrases, I kick him / her to the kerb and move on to the next doctor.

My Gastroenterologist lives a long distance from me, and I thought about finding another one closer to my home.  When, after a scope into my duodenum and stomach, the new doctor told me " One day those polyps will turn cancerous and there is nothing that anyone can do for you", I asked my surgeon if he thought that was the case, and he said that was a doctor talking that didn't know anything about what he saw.  You guessed it...I called the new doctor's office up, explained that I did not wish to see that GI any further and would remain with my old GI.

You have to wonder that if someone told them that they should just let their child die instead of fighting for them and the child fighting for itself, and letting God do his work, would they heed their own words?  I doubt it. 

I had tumours that were inoperable.  I was given 3 years to live. I was on prayer lists in Australia, and the USA.  My mum and step dad and others were fasting at times to show their dedication to god (sacrificing their meals in place of the sacrifices of animals etc that were done in the biblical times). Six months after these tumours were found, I had another CT to find out why I had pain in another part of my abdomen.  My surgeon was amazed.  He said there were 2 new tumours that were not in a dangerous area, and could easily be romoved, but that the inoperable tumours had disappeared.  They were no longer there and that a miracle had happened. 

When I told another doctor I saw regularly, that God had obviously taken my tumours from me, allowing me to live a long life, he told me there must be some medical reason for their disappearance, that miracles don't just happen.  I said bye bye to him also......If he couldn't explain it, then he couldn't say it wasn't a miracle...

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#10  Posted: Mon Feb 9th, 2009 08:13 pm

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I remember when i found out i couldnt have anymore children, i was just coming out of being night nights when i saw the Doctors standing over my bed.
I was still not with it but all he said to me was....well your never gong to fall pregnant again and walked away, that was it and i never seen him again while in hospital or after he didnt even tell me why.
The good old bed side manner has well and truly gone these days even back 10-15 years ago.
My heart goes out to you Jo, that was so cruel of that Doctor  h0097.



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